BDSM Question: Alternative Punishments For Manipulative Subs

June 8, 2012

Here is the second part of the question from last week about how to start a scene. You can read the full question here: Question: How To Start A BDSM Scene

I think the real problem that causes subs misbehave is that there is an insecure feeling about how to start a nice evening.
I really do not now how to start from nothing. So the result was that I misbehaved so the evening could start.

After a while he found out that I used that attitude to get started, that i started to like being whipped. So he didn’t whip me on the attention-calling.

In the meanwhile other things didn’t work out that well which was the reason the relation ended.

Now I only can ask you the following questions hoping that you will do something with them and maybe the results will help many more subs and dominants with the results.

Question 2: Can you suggest alternate punishments?

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My Response

If there’s one thing that I enjoy in BDSM, it’s punishments. There’s something lovely about a slave handing over their personal safety to you because they trust you. But when a slave starts to abuse that trust, that’s when things can get a little confusing – and difficult. Slaves that begin to misbehave only because they want to be flogged or whipped aren’t being submissive – they’re being manipulators.

At the same time, a Master or Mistress who is using punishment incorrectly can be doing just as much harm. So, if a Master or a Mistress begin to notice that a slave is only misbehaving in order to get attention, it’s time to switch tactics. Personally, I have a few different punishments that no one likes – and they work very well to make sure a slave is learning what I have trained them to learn.

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The Physical Strain Tests
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If I’m feeling especially mean or saucy, I might punish a slave by having them do things that are more physical in nature. What this means to me is that I might have a slave hold themselves in an uncomfortable position, one that could not possibly give them any pleasure.

Some examples of this might be:

* Sitting with their knees bent and their back against the wall (They should look like a chair) for an extended period of time. To make it worse I might even sit on them their they are straining.

* Sitting on a car mat with the poky bits up

* Lifting heavy rocks or bricks from one pile to another and back again.

* Holding up a large bucket of sand, water or rocks in an outstretched hand for an extended period of time.

You get the idea. The slave might still get pain as a punishment, but it might not be the kind that brings them any pleasure – nor should it. When a slave has done something wrong, they should not get anything good in return.

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The No Touch Policy
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I might suggest that a Master or Mistress that doesn’t touch their slave is one that is punishing in a worse way. The slave wants to be recognized by their Dominant, so when the Dominant refuses to touch them, it shows the displeasure and the disappointment. I would tell the slave why I was not touching them and that I would not be touching them again until they understood what their place was in the relationship.

I might read to them the contract that we had in place, showing them exactly what they agreed to do for me. If they felt the contract needed to be changed, then we could discuss that.

Until they began to prove themselves again, all of the training would be done only with my voice.

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The Silent Treatment
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The one punishment of last resort is stopping all training and give them a set period of time to think about what they have done. Whether this means that you discontinue training for a while or you simply refuse to train them until they begin to follow your rules again, that’s up to the Master or the Mistress. I would simply say at the end of the training session that went badly that I was upset and that I felt that we could not train again until the slave straightened up their thinking.

I might offer one more training session for the slave to prove me wrong, but if that didn’t work, I would stop training together for at least a week. During that time, the slave would need to write down the reasons why they weren’t following commands, why they were being manipulative, and what changes they are going to make to rectify the situation.

Again, this is a punishment of last resort. It is always better to work with a slave to help them see the error of their ways, rather then just pushing them off. However, if you have spent the last 6 months trying different punishments and your sub is still trying to be manipulative or refusing to obey. Then a break might be need for the slave’s punishment and for Dominant to re-evaluate what it is they need from this training as well.

Every slave goes through a period when they have troubles obeying, but a good Master or Mistress will use the right tools to harness their slaves once more. And once the slave is obedient, then they might be able to get punished in the ways that make them scream in pleasure. Maybe.

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If you have an idea about different ways to punish manipulative submissives, please add your idea in a comment below.

Regards,

Master Bishop

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